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What's Going on With Tier 6?

Captain's Blog Stardate 92269.89

This week the devs gave us a lot of information on the upcoming Tier 6 ships and the new Tier 5-U ships. The "U" stands for "upgraded" These upgraded ships should be as competitive as the Tier 6 ships, which is good news. Now here's the bad news.

Upgrading a Tier 5 ship will require Zen (and possibly an item), but don't throw a temper tantrum just yet! Some ships like the event ones (Risa), lockbox ships, lobi ships, and duty officer promotional ships will have a free upgrade. Also, once you upgrade a ship you can upgrade it on any character for free.

So let me get this straight. If I want a Tier 6 ship I have to pay Zen. If I want a Tier 5-U ship that doesn't fall into one of those categories, I have to pay Zen (granted it will be significantly cheaper than a Tier 6). Here's the problem, what if I already spent Zen on my Tier 5 ship. Why should I have to pay more just to upgrade it? Well I guess they need to make money somehow!

Here's what the Tier 6 ships will have. Hit points that increase as you level. A "Specialist" Bridge Officer slot for "Specialist" Bridge Officers that have access to two out of four pools of skills (more on this in a bit). Starship Mastery and Starship Traits. Of course there will be additional console and bridge officer slots.

As you play with a ship it'll increase in level from 0 to 5 (this is the Starship Master). These ships will have passive abilities that make them strong. Once you reach level 5 with a ship, another starship trait slot will be unlocked that can be used on any ship; however the passive abilities need to be unlocked per ship. Basically this rewards players who constantly use the same ship.

Tier 5-U ships have the increased hit points, 4 levels of the Starship Mastery, and an additional Bridge Officer slot. Speaking of Bridge Officers, I have a feeling that the "Specialist" Bridge Officer will be a Command Bridge Officer, giving us Tactical, Engineering, Science and Command. There is no official word on it though so don't quote me.

Overall it sounds interesting and there is definitely a lot to take in. I'm looking forward to it but I'm also a little scared. There is so much to learn and so much to do once this expansion is released! I guess we'll just have to take it one day at a time.

As always, share your thoughts!

Written by Attilio on August 31, 2014 at 11:01 pm


TacPaddy (Member) said...
September 01, 2014 at 03:40 am

The differences between T5-U and T6 are immense in my opinion. The "pure" T6 Ships have the Level 5 Mastery, a Starship Trait, the above mention "Specialist" BOFF and so on.

My speculation is, that they introduce something similar to the Fleet Ship Module. Maybe they call it Ship Upgrade Module. Let's remember: if you have the Retrofit version of a Ship (2000 Z), then you just need one FSM to get the Fleet Ship. If you don't have, you need 4-5 FSM to get it. That way, Cryptic ensured that you paid the necessary ZEN to get the Ship.

I seriously hope, that Cryptic is sensible enough to allow for a similar mechanic for the Ship upgrade.
Let's say 1 SUM (Ship Upgrade Module) to get to T5U and hopefully only 2 SUM to get to T6. Why?
Let's be honest here, I expect T6 Ships to cost at least 3000 Z. Why? Most T5 Ships already cost 2000-2500 Z and the increments between the Tiers were usually in steps of 500 ZEN.
If upgrading T5 Ships to T5-U costs ZEN, then it suggest a cost of at least 500 ZEN to do so. How do we bridge the gap to T6 then? My guess is, by spending another 500 ZEN for a total of 3000-3500 Z, depending on the Ship.

That is a hefty price. However, like Attilio mentioned above, they need to make money. And ever since went from a subscription-based model to a Free-to-play-model, this motive is more important than ever. Cryptic is a business after all and they require us to make this in-game purchases to make a living.

I don't know about you, but I have begun saving money for a T6 Scimitar as that is a Ship that I WANT. Hopefully, I don't need 30 Bucks for it, but just 10.

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Chris (Member) replied...
September 02, 2014 at 10:55 am

You can't upgrade from T 5-U to Tier 6. The only way to get a Tier 6 is to buy a new one. (So your Scimitar might have to be Tier 5-U)
I think you are probably right about the Zen range for cost of the new ships.

Of course, they have said that all the new and existing story content can be done with a tier 5 ship, so the Tier 5-U and Tier 6 ships would be needed for the queues and PVP.

Still curious how equipment upgrades will work...

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Gameverseman (Member) said...
September 01, 2014 at 11:37 am

272 pages and counting on the STO forums speaks for itself. Cryptic/PWE will still make money off the T6 ships among every other item/service they are providing. And since PW, who is the man of the house so-to-speak, recorded their revenue being over 1 billion dollars. So it's no sweat of their back to provide free upgrades to all ships. Whether its to T5-U or T6.

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R2D2 (Guest) said...
September 01, 2014 at 02:50 pm

Well, I'm also expecting T6 ships to cost 3k ZEN, it makes sense, now Cryptic made clear that T5 ships won't upgrade to T6, instead their upgrade will be called T5U, so if you paid 2k-2.5k ZEN, 500 to upgrade would make sense, except that T5U is not the same as T6... mmm there lies a problem, and if you add that maybe you already upgraded yout T5 to the fleet version which can also be upgraded to T5U then it starts to really hurt, I mean 2.5k for a T5 then +500 for fleet version, now +500 for fleet T5U... and yet not the same as a T6... oh well, I expect to not take that path at all and just buy a T6 (for each faction) IF they really are worth it imo and in late December or even next year, until then my free Risian T5Us will do (accordintg to Cryptic).

Anyway I feel the new content will include a mission that let's you try out a CS-T6 or maybe be reward a vanilla low standard T6 freebie

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Gameverseman (Member) replied...
September 02, 2014 at 10:55 am

I hope you are right about the mission.

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Attilio (Owner) replied...
September 02, 2014 at 11:32 am

That's a fair assumption about the mission. They've given out a number of free T5 ships so it's possible they'll do the same with T6.

It's also possible that upon reaching level 60 (or maybe even 51) we'll get a free standard T6 ship.

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Gameverseman (Member) replied...
September 02, 2014 at 06:40 pm

Knowing Cryptic, only "Gold" users will get the free ship... :(

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Attilio (Owner) replied...
September 02, 2014 at 07:00 pm

You mean the free ship upon leveling up? Yeah I wouldn't be shocked if Cryptic gave that to only gold members.

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cmdrscarlet (Member) said...
September 02, 2014 at 11:49 am

I'm getting excited over DR. Since my love for the Excelsior knows no bounds, then I'm not really caring for the T6 ships. Yet, because the Excelsior will get to be a T5U, then I am paying attention to that process. Although I do not wish there to be a Zen cost for the upgrade, I can understand it and will pay for it to keep the ship as top-of-the-line as it can be.

The devil is in the details so I just have to be vigilant not to screw something up, that will cost me more Zen :P

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FenrirStormFang (Member) said...
September 02, 2014 at 07:31 pm

According to a recent blog, not all T5 ships will require Zen to upgrade. The full list of upgradable ships can be found here:
Some ships may not be available at launch, but will be made available as time allows.

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Dafmeister (Member) said...
September 03, 2014 at 08:00 am

I've been looking at the details of the T6 ships released today ( for anyone who hasn't seen it) and from the way the T6 ships are being described the T5Us may be a lot more competitive that we've been fearing. Most of the T6's are being described as 'light', 'nimble' or 'stealthy', suggesting (to me, at least), that they won't be as tough as their T5U equivalents, but will have other abilities to make up the difference. Could open up some interesting build options if I'm right.

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Attilio (Owner) replied...
September 03, 2014 at 01:52 pm

Well T5U won't have the 5th Starship Mastery level, and therefore the extra trait slot (unless unlocked with a T6 ship), the Specialty Boff, nor the extra console/boff slots. So they will be competitive, but in a head to head match a T6 will have the advantage. When it comes to PvE, it won't make a difference.

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187 (Guest) said...
September 05, 2014 at 05:16 am

well i agree with most of you guys. im not sure about the skins and designs of some of the fed ships

The escort doesnt look that cool to me (mind you im just looking at the pics given) the coolest ship seems to be the one in the trailer with the 4 nacelles.

but only 2 ships each for kdf and roms?

im looking forward to upgrading a few of my t5 ships to T5U and seeing how well they fare.

willl they release the daunltless as a free ship for eveyone?

well we shall see how its goes

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